Commit c0fdd2b4 authored by Bruce Momjian's avatar Bruce Momjian

Add data partitioning idea to tablespaces discussion.

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From: "Zeugswetter Andreas SB SD" <ZeugswetterA@spardat.at>
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> Partitions
> ==========
> Next stage would be teaching the planner. The conditions would be
> pseudo-constraints on the partitions. Hence if the conditions and the
> constraints form a non-intersecting set, you can skip that partition
> altogether.
Make that "normal check constraints", and make the planner consider
constraints,
and I think that by itself combined with the current featureset will
be much more powerful than any of the "partitioning" features out there.
(This is mainly needed to optimize selects on the big union all view)
Imho if a dba starts to partition, he usually needs to be more involved
than the average user, so I think he should be able cope with compexity.
What imho would help, is a tool that generates a suggested rule set,
indexes
and actions, which the dba can review and apply. I do not think new SQL
syntax
would really help, since that would somehow hide the great existing
power of
the rule system. A tool would teach the dba, and empower him to use it.
And yes, creating several smaller tables and adding the appropriate
rules
usually makes the VLDB life much easier compared to growing single
tables into
the TB range.
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On Tue, May 20, 2003 at 12:40:00AM +1000, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote:
> Anyway, the general trend seems to be against the idea so I may as well go
> think of something else :)
I'm disappointed to hear that. Having no way to effectively partition
data is a real pain in pgsql, and your proposal would adress that. Yes,
you can build it yourself by creating the view and all the rules by
hand, but that has a lot of drawbacks:
It's completely PGSQL specific
It leaves no possibility for performance improvements down the road
It's a lot of code to write
You have to manually maintain it all every time you need to add a new
partition (in your example, at the start of every year).
I don't know what the policies for patches are, but I'd hope that the
core team would consider adding this functionality, especially since a
first-round implimentation can be done entirely with rules (or so it
seems).
I certainly understand that development time is a very limited resource,
and I'm willing to work on this (though I'm not a C coder). Even if no
one can commit to this right now, can't it be added to the todo list?
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On Tue, May 20, 2003 at 10:02:24AM -0500, Jim C. Nasby wrote:
> On Tue, May 20, 2003 at 12:40:00AM +1000, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote:
> > Anyway, the general trend seems to be against the idea so I may as well=
go
> > think of something else :)
>=20
> I'm disappointed to hear that. Having no way to effectively partition
> data is a real pain in pgsql, and your proposal would adress that. Yes,
> you can build it yourself by creating the view and all the rules by
> hand, but that has a lot of drawbacks:
I agree, there is a lot of potential here. And I don't beleive it would be
too much work as most of the infrastructure is already there. At this stage
I'm just wondering if it will go on the TODO list. I propose that the
following items be added:
* Improve the planner to take CHECK constraints into account to prune th=
e plan.
* Allow a single index to index multiple tables (also for inherited PRIM=
ARY KEYS)
* Allow partitioning of table into multiple subtables
The first two items would be useful in their own right. With them the final
one would be straight forward. I'd be prepared to put some effort into this
if there is some indication it would be accepted.
> I don't know what the policies for patches are, but I'd hope that the
> core team would consider adding this functionality, especially since a
> first-round implimentation can be done entirely with rules (or so it
> seems).
Well, I think the policy is 'if you write the code you have a better chance
to have it accepted' :) So, if it's likely to be accepted then we only need
to find someone to code it. Given the other priorities currently I think
waiting for the core team to write it would be futile (unless you can
convince someone like IBM to give the core team money to write it).
Right now I'd be happy if the anonymous CVS server would talk to me :)
By the way, has anyone given thought to user-defined storage managers? Apart
from allowing backward compatable table access, you could implement a simple
version of partitioning that doesn't take advantage of planner tricks.
Have a nice day,
--=20
Martijn van Oosterhout <kleptog@svana.org> http://svana.org/kleptog/
> "the West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or
> religion but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence.
> Westerners often forget this fact, non-Westerners never do."
> - Samuel P. Huntington
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